Wednesday, September 14, 2005

There Goes the Pledge...

Just saw a news flash that said a federal judge had ruled that reciting "The Pledge of Allegience" in public schools was "unconstitutional". The atheist lawyer carrying this whole thing through was already defeated in two lower courts, so he must have found himself an "activist judge" for this ruling to go through. Just found it interesting.

6 comments:

Mat Brewster said...

I've always heard the God part of the pledge was actually written in the 1950s....

Though I think a lot of folks go way overboard with this stuff, I won't shed a tear or get angry if the pledge goes away. I was never really into the pledge anyway.

bigsip said...

Yeah, I'm not terribly concerned over it. I suppose what bothers me is the fact that the courts seem to favor the dilution of christian values and views. Atheists have faith, too and the judges are denying christian faith in God, but affirming atheist faith in themselves and man. Which is worse?

JS said...

it is just odd that in the united states of america, that reciting allegence to your country is against the rules of the very country you are a part of... it is like me telling my mom that I will do whatever she tells me to do as long as i live in her house and her grounding me for saying such an awful thing.

pledge today, whats going to be tomarrow? Cant give sermons that are agains homosexuality?

bigsip said...

as long as the ACLU/courts stay out of religion/worship, i am ok with stuff like culling the pledge from schools. but, it's still sad to see one faith (atheism IS a form of faith/religion) win out over another. there should be a better deifnition for religion that includes atheism/agnosticism with all other religions. the courts would have a time with that!

Mat Brewster said...

I think the problem people have with it is that the line

One Nation Under God

mentions god. For someone who doesn't believe in God this is an issue. Just like if it said

One Nation Under Buddha we would have issues with it.

Regardless of whether or not most americans claim christianity and what religion the founding fathers believed in, the basic principles of our nation is that we have the right to worship any god we choose or not at all. showing preference to one god is a big deal.

Personally I think the whole plede is a bit of brain washing anyway, but that's another idea.

Although I do believe some are already trying to stop preaching against homosexualities.

bigsip said...

Yeah, at least they aren't changing it to say, "One nation under Darwin" or "One nation under humanism"...I still think there's credence to the argument that atheism and agnosticism are religions, though. In fact, they are very small religions, just as homosexuality is a lifestyle of a very small group of people when you consider the nation as a whole. Yet, the courts arepandering to both. Why? Doesn't seem so right to me.