Tuesday, February 07, 2006

show of hands for hell, anyone?


So…

Things seem to be a bit slow on the board so I thought I would throw a few things out there for discussion. I’m going to cover religious topics because it’s frustrating as anything to have Sipper always come back with, “Well that’s what the Bible says. You guys can discuss this until you’re blue in the face.”
At least this way there can be a level playing field so to speak.

Sipper (everyone for that matter) I love you but you’re (we're) discussing the topic with other Christians who largely share your own beliefs, so most of these discussions are really done into a mirror until someone finds the right verses and the peaceable kingdom is reconnected.

So these topics are picked from a questionnaire I received from a religious group designed to weed out those who are of more “liberal” philosophies.

“Do you believe that all or at least some denominations are a part of the church of Christ?”

I take this with a pretty wide berth allowing a lot to flow around it. I think that in the days before many “Christian” churches were around and you were dealing with Baptist, c.o.C, Catholics, Methodists and a hand full of others I think there were clear separations in the area of baptisms.

With Christian churches popping up all over the place I think things have changed. Following the idea that Baptist’s might baptize you into the ideology of the Baptist faith. It would stand to reason that a Christian church would baptize you into the ideology of Christ. Music and useless issues aside I think they are more likely to understand (no that they do or don’t) baptism is a needed and commanded part of salvation.

As congregations go they are largely self governed without a central board or what ever and generally strive to follow the Bible to salvations.

Obviously there are differences and such but as far a considering if the attendance and gathering in one building or another is dependant on what you have in your heart and live through scripture I think they could be just as prepared as I am to meet my maker.

10 comments:

bigsip said...

OK, I can dig it.

I just go to the coC cuz I think they're going in the "rightest" direction.

Chuck, Jamison, and I had a nice discussion about this the other night.

We pretty uch agreed that we're to "preach the Gospel(good news)" and teach after that. The Bible reveals it all.

At that point, it's a personal journey. So, what it comes down to is, people know to study, to seek, etc. At that point, you can't really claim ignorance. Folks will be judged according to their own measures.

JS said...

so whats your question?

Talk to a mormon and youll feel like you and him go to the same church, until he says his founder flew to america and met with Jesus in the wilderness and had a campfire and was handing some gold plate...

Mat Brewster said...

Sorry Mulls I don't think you're gonna draw too much action from this. If you've got the basics of salvation down then it doesn't matter whats on the sign outside the church door.

bigsip said...

Don't fret, Mullins.

I've had some real duds, too.

Keep bloggin', bro.

Diana said...

Hey, try your best to do what he says, and I think God will be ok with you.

JS said...

yet "not everyone who says unto me "Lord, Lord" will enter into the kingdom of heaven"...

bigsip said...

Yep. That's where knowing the Word and knowing what it says becomes increasingly important.

Other passages like "study to show yourself approved" come to mind. No one who has been introduced to God's Word can claim ignorance.

It's all about "soil".

mullinz8 said...

I knew I should have used the first question…

I had a good segue question into sin based on a sliding scale that I decided was too involved but it revolved around the subjective of sin. For instance the Bible takes about taking care of the body but people don’t and are now getting diseases that are degrading their quality of life. Is this a sin. Most of us can think of a situation where we think “that’s not so bad” where we should in fact have a bit stronger resolve.

We’ve covered this in the topic of smoking and have sort of all said that it’s fine just so long as…

What other sins have a sliding scale? The questionnaire goes to so far back as mixed swimming. For me I’ve got a much better chance of thinking “bad” thoughts watching some cable shows than I would at a swimming pool. Then again the smell of some sun tan lotions can send me into a carnal swoon. I guess I should find a big rock to hide under.

mullinz8 said...

Point two…

When we were at FU together we all knew folks that felt “those” people were all hell bound. I don’t think that we fell too heavily into that grouping but we all knew those folks. Is there a responsibility to tell hardliners to lighten up? I mean I’d like to tell GBN (the suppliers of my list of questions, duh) that if they are concerned as 60 something your old men about lusting over kids at a pool they should adjust their base of concern.

If we really feel this way why are we so concerned with considering as, c.o.Cer’s, “we are right.”

Diana said...

>>Yep. That's where knowing the Word and knowing what it says becomes increasingly important.

That's all included in doing what he asks. I just like to make things simple! :)