tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13746420.post116472470966546408..comments2023-11-16T03:47:04.958-06:00Comments on Midnight Cafe Discussions: Some Things In There Aren't in ThereMat Brewsterhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10572618956112125321noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13746420.post-1164816480806668892006-11-29T10:08:00.000-06:002006-11-29T10:08:00.000-06:00HAHA! Glad to help.There is a lot of crap. Fortu...HAHA! Glad to help.<BR/><BR/>There is a lot of crap. Fortunately, some very knowledgeable people are out there, though.bigsiphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13435879973761006243noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13746420.post-1164811656957477612006-11-29T08:47:00.000-06:002006-11-29T08:47:00.000-06:00Thanks sip. I know there is stuff out there, the ...Thanks sip. I know there is stuff out there, the problem is there is a lot of crap too.<BR/><BR/>This is why I have you. You help me cipher.Mat Brewsterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10572618956112125321noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13746420.post-1164806964647360672006-11-29T07:29:00.000-06:002006-11-29T07:29:00.000-06:00More stuff:http://www.comereason.org/cmp_rlgn/cmp0...More stuff:<BR/><BR/>http://www.comereason.org/cmp_rlgn/cmp005.aspbigsiphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13435879973761006243noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13746420.post-1164806855526558102006-11-29T07:27:00.000-06:002006-11-29T07:27:00.000-06:00Brew, I read through this and it looks like a pret...Brew, I read through this and it looks like a pretty good explanation. There is more stuff out there like this, too. All you have to do is look.<BR/><BR/>http://www.gotquestions.org/Bible-God-Word.htmlbigsiphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13435879973761006243noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13746420.post-1164800655400853582006-11-29T05:44:00.000-06:002006-11-29T05:44:00.000-06:00It kind of reminds me of how when people do impres...It kind of reminds me of how when people do impressions of Darth Vader, they say "Luke, I am your father."<BR/><BR/>All he says is "I am your father."<BR/>There's no "Luke" in there. Of course without the Luke, no one would know what the hay people are talking about.Dianahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08286425629885675046noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13746420.post-1164770506096416092006-11-28T21:21:00.000-06:002006-11-28T21:21:00.000-06:00I'm still slightly confused actually. I'll leave ...I'm still slightly confused actually. I'll leave how we decided what books to decide what's canon for now. But how did we decide canon means completely inspired?<BR/><BR/>a few times it is mentioned, but since the whole canon thing didn't happen to quite a bit later, how did we get to the whole darn thing is god breathed?Mat Brewsterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10572618956112125321noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13746420.post-1164764289938875302006-11-28T19:38:00.000-06:002006-11-28T19:38:00.000-06:00As far as inspiration goes, I believe that what we...As far as inspiration goes, I believe that what we have in the agreed-upon text is cohesive and not contradictory of itself.<BR/><BR/>Again, I think that if you study Hermeneutics and canonization methods, it will make more sense.<BR/><BR/>Indeed, we must study outside the Word to understand some of the stuff inside sometimes. But, limits must be set. If something is put forth as "inspired" then it must not contradict the canon in order to be included.<BR/><BR/>If any other new texts are found, which is highly unlikely due to the passage of time and how worn and deteriorated they would be, then those texts would need to be examined and found to be completely in harmony with the existing canon in order to be canonized as inspired.<BR/><BR/>Again, this is extremely unlikely since the world has been practically scrubbed clean of documents over the last 500 years.<BR/><BR/>Just consider some of the texts lost in the burning of the Alexandrian library. <BR/><BR/>But, from my own study, I trust the harmony of the existing text and it's veracity as a divinely inspired book.<BR/><BR/>I just think it is interesting how other bits of truth find their way into the text of the Word. They are mysteries that will probably only be revealed in Heaven.bigsiphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13435879973761006243noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13746420.post-1164763731155792932006-11-28T19:28:00.000-06:002006-11-28T19:28:00.000-06:00Thanks, Jamison.I'm really excited about the inter...Thanks, Jamison.<BR/><BR/>I'm really excited about the interview, but still hoping for more than one option.<BR/><BR/>I'd still love the other job lead, but I can't turn down an offer if it's all I have after a couple of weeks.bigsiphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13435879973761006243noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13746420.post-1164756928360360042006-11-28T17:35:00.000-06:002006-11-28T17:35:00.000-06:00I want nothing more than a job for you Sip... but ...I want nothing more than a job for you Sip... but I will pray that God gives you a job at Lee as a last resort... from what I hear anyway. Of course, a man like you would teach AP, so there may not be too many street tuffs in an AP class.<BR/><BR/>Look for an email from me regaurding a get together.JShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03837745315360109036noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13746420.post-1164753298880313732006-11-28T16:34:00.000-06:002006-11-28T16:34:00.000-06:00This all goes back to my questions concerning the ...This all goes back to my questions concerning the inspiration of the bible. <BR/><BR/>Even in the linked article some of the commentators are questioning the author and asking for references, which from what I could tell weren't cited anywhere.<BR/><BR/>I did find interest in his point that most of the "canon" is considered as such because it was written by apostles, or in a couple of cases essentially approved by apostles (assumed)<BR/><BR/>I wonder where we get the idea that the entire bible is inspired, or God breathed.<BR/><BR/>No, I'm not trying to say it isn't or that what we have isn't the true word of God. yes, I am still questioning these things and trying to figure it all out.Mat Brewsterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10572618956112125321noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13746420.post-1164738736273288892006-11-28T12:32:00.000-06:002006-11-28T12:32:00.000-06:00Off Subject:I just emailed and called one of the A...Off Subject:<BR/><BR/>I just emailed and called one of the Assistant Superintendents of Education for Alabama.<BR/><BR/>I've known him all my life and he and his family go to church where my Dad preaches.<BR/><BR/>Anyway, I called for a letter of recommendation for the position at R E Lee High School. He said, "Hey, I'll call the Principal and ask him to give you any consideration possible!"<BR/><BR/>Woohoo!<BR/><BR/>Y'all say a prayer for my imminent interview.bigsiphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13435879973761006243noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13746420.post-1164738508309970762006-11-28T12:28:00.000-06:002006-11-28T12:28:00.000-06:00I think some or even most of these manuscripts hav...I think some or even most of these manuscripts have never been discovered.<BR/><BR/>Of course, the parts the inspired writers referred to are in agreement with inspired scripture.<BR/><BR/>It's almost the same, to me, as using sermon illustrations from Reader's Digest today.bigsiphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13435879973761006243noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13746420.post-1164737756044352902006-11-28T12:15:00.000-06:002006-11-28T12:15:00.000-06:00I am pretty open minded and stuff and I would LOVE...I am pretty open minded and stuff and I would LOVE to read those, but I would be afriad that I would start to think "well, what ELSE is there out there that we havent found?" and in a way, start to doubt some. Just me.JShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03837745315360109036noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13746420.post-1164731515667065692006-11-28T10:31:00.000-06:002006-11-28T10:31:00.000-06:00I think it's important to look outside the Bible f...I think it's important to look outside the Bible for extra support of our faith.<BR/><BR/>Obviously, the inspired writers were inspired to use examples from poets, religious writers, etc. from their day.<BR/><BR/>Of course, they chose the doctrines and sayings that agreed with the Christian belief system and were in harmony with inspired scripture.<BR/><BR/>I just think it's interesting and a lesson for us as far as study, both intellectual and spiritual, are concerned.bigsiphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13435879973761006243noreply@blogger.com